Forum:Chat Rules

Forums - Chat Rules

This page is an archive. Please do not edit the contents of this page. Comment: nothing constructive seems to be coming out of this The last rule on BP:CHAT says that if a user is uncomfortable by something that the rules don't protect, you should respect that and not make that user uncomfortable. One of the cases involves King Kahuka. I believe that if somebody has a problem with what we are allowed to do in chat should just leave chat. Or change the rules to only have an extent. Kahuka is giving absurd demands such as "DON'T USE THAT EMOTE BECAUSE IT ISN'T MINE AND I DISLIKE THE PERSON THAT MADE IT BECAUSE IT BEAT OUT MINE" or "DON'T USE THIS WORD IN CHAT THAT I USE TOO MUCH IN MINECRAFT" Yes, all the caps are needed because that is what chat is like with him whining. I mean I have evidence of both. CM4S beat Kahuka for the Benny avatar on chat and Kahuka accuses him of copying and then just doesn't like him. Then he says don't us D*mn or H*ll or *ss yet he uses F*ck, Sh*t, and curses us out in Minecraft. And he claims that since he has anger issues this is the case. So what are we to do? Agree to the bipolar demands or can we use logic and say no. His anger is his problem to face and since we have evidence (ask LFY, Meiko, or any other person who played on the Brickimedia Minecraft server.) He was cursing with no intentions of stopping. This tyranny needs to stop for the sake of a sane chat... -Nuff Discussion You're sort of twisting what he says around, and really, if he's uncomfortable with it, don't do it. -LFY1547 Not really, it's exactly what he says, why are you being so defensive about it. A few weeks ago you even said he was annoying -Nuff Why can't you just listen to another users' request, Nuff? You swearing incessantly is a completely reasonable request, and the fact that you'd rather be a dick to the user and not listen to their request means that you obviously need to follow more than just BP:CHAT. Look at BP:UCS for a change. I don't care what this particular user says on Minecraft or anywhere else. Right now, you're intentionally provoking him in chat by refusing to accept his simple requests. You're close to being blocked if you keep it up. --ToaMeiko (talk) 02:33, 19 February 2014 (UTC) I'm not being a dick for standing up to what isn't right, threatening to block me won't get you anywhere. -Nuff I'm kind of hating everyone in this situation. Kahuka can be unreasonable with his "censorship" and should learn tolerance, but we should listen to him and be more respectful. Again, he can be a little too strict, but I'm pretty sure the admins are working on that with him, and hopefully he'll get better. --Knight I'm really unsure about this situation, like Knight. I don't see why is forum is called chat rules when you seem to be targeting your problems with Kahuka. First off, I think we should all be more willing to accept Kahuka's requests on swearing. It's not that hard to change your wording. What I have trouble with is that I just can't see how Kahuka expects us to follow those chat rules, when he rages in full caps repeatedly, breaking a chat rule. I don't see how we can appease both Kahuka and Nuff without enforcing the "uncomfortable" rule, and the raging in caps rule. LazerzSoH (talk) 02:49, 19 February 2014 (UTC) LazerzSoH First of all, I think it's incredibly stupid that something involving only three users (as far as I can tell) should need a re-evaluation of the policy. The policy is freakin' fine. If someone has a reason why they don't want you to do something, and it's a convenient request, then you be a compassionate human being and go along with it. If it's unreasonable, but they're legitimately uncomfortable, then try and help them personally. Intentionally provoking them is not going to help them get better in this area. Finally, if it is an unreasonable request, talk to them about it with them. So many **** issues on this site could be resolved instantly without the admins' help if people would just learn to talk with one another diplomatically and make some ****ing compromises. Now, as for this issue itself, if Kahuka is being a hypocrite with what language he is fine with, then, as I mentioned above, talk with him about it and get his reason why. If discussion doesn't work, then get an admin to help, but make that a sort of "last resort". Once again, though, the current policy is fine. It's just the users that need to resolve this. BrickfilmNut (talk) 02:56, 19 February 2014 (UTC) Just my opinions: Yelling at people to stop using a particular emoticon (as long as it isn't huge walls of emoticons, etc) = stupid Yelling at people to stop using G-rated words such as "damn" = stupid However: Intentionally provoking people = stupid Basically- this whole situation is stupid to me. Honestly, I'm not sure why it wasn't both sides banned or neither, from what I saw both were pretty much as bad as each other. And it was confusing me as to why only one side was being warned before a ban. But, I really wasn't paying attention, I kinda just tune out or quit chat when it starts, so my opinion there's probably not the most informed. NovaHawk 05:26, 19 February 2014 (UTC) Note: I don't care what you do anywhere that isn't here. Main point: You make no proposal for changes to chat rules, and unless one is added soon, then I'll just close this forum. There are two main ways people solve disputes in life: Talk, like BFN suggests Suppression - telling everyone your feelings on every little thing is the worse thing you can do for any sort of relationship with any human being, and just because you are on the internet, that doesn't change. CJC95 (talk) 17:36, 19 February 2014 (UTC) relevant xkcd from today. CJC95 (talk) 18:49, 19 February 2014 (UTC) I wouldn't really say that "Chat Rules" but to each their own.... However, I wouldn't say that Kahuka's request was that uncalled for. The emote one was purely ridiculous, but not swearing (with a few exceptions, like Nova said) shouldn't have to be an accommodation. Up until the last year or so, nobody ever did swear, and if they did, they were kicked. I don't see why it's such a big deal all of a sudden. Those words were made to offend people. If someone is offended by them, why is it so surprising? I think that if anything in the rules needs to be changed, it should be to keep language cleaner.... Berrybrick (talk) 21:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC) No one was ever kicked for "damn" as far as I'm aware, which is why people moan when Kahuka asks them not to say it. CJC95 (talk) 22:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC) I guess I just don't get why it's so hard not to say it. Berrybrick (talk) 22:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC) Neither do I, but it doesn't change that people have been saying it forever here :P CJC95 (talk) 23:01, 19 February 2014 (UTC) Both "hell" and "damn" have been okay in the past. I brought up the idea of muting the words in chat a while ago. Just like an emote, but without the parenthises so that whenever "hell" is said, it replaces it with the word, "heck". Not sure if that was possible or not, but it could stop a lot of fights from ever happening. The LMBW, I think, had a bot that automatically censored certain words. Anyone else have any other ideas similar to mine? LazerzSoH (talk) 23:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC)LazerzSoH Kahuka was complaining about other words too, like "dick", which is a reasonable thing to request people not to say, as it is seen as obscene. Nuff intentionally went from there to troll Kahuka by saying "dick" in every opportunity he had, such as making the claim out of context that his uncle's name is "Dick", which was irrelevant to any conversation in chat, thus it's obvious the intention of NuffSaid was to troll. --ToaMeiko (talk) 23:54, 19 February 2014 (UTC) This forum *is* called chat rules. Are there any rules we want to expand on or change? As to the language rules, I think "hell" and "damn" are fine. Other obscene words, such as "dick," are not. If we can't find a way to get around using them (censoring), then we will refrain from using the words entirely - or take a kick. All in favor? LazerzSoH (talk) 00:19, 20 February 2014 (UTC)LazerzSoH BP:CHAT already says "be nice" and "be normal". I think if people aren't being appropriate ("normal" in the situation), then it's warn-worthy. "Be nice" would include obeying other users' reasonable requests, such as not to swear. It's really not hard to use different diction if a user asks you to. BP:UCS sums up the rest of the issues, basically. Since the issue outlined in the original post of this forum is completely stupid, I think the entire thing is more of an issue with lack of common sense, not something that's an issue with the current policy. --ToaMeiko (talk) 01:17, 20 February 2014 (UTC) whatever happened to just bein' nice, sheesh FB100Z (talk) 02:11, 20 February 2014 (UTC) nice? What's that? CJC95 (talk) 10:32, 20 February 2014 (UTC) Aside - we have no chat rules anyway, they are guidelines :P CJC95 (talk) 10:32, 20 February 2014 (UTC)